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1. Price Fishback on New Deal mortgage aid

2. Using the placebo effect for health care policy

3. Finger-tapping speed peaks at age 39 for men

4. Markets in everything: betting on Turing machines

Posted by Tyler Cowen on October 18, 2008 at 01:21 PM in Web/Tech | Permalink

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In high school, when we got our first Casio pocket calculators, we used to play this game where we would punch "1" "+" "+" and then "=" a hundred times as fast as we could to make the display count up to 101. We called it the hundred meter dash. It was a humbling experience that none of us could do it in less than ten seconds (the fastest one, a drummer in a band, did it in about 12 seconds), so we were slower tapping a finger than the fastest athletes racing the hundred meters. Maybe I should've kept the calculator and tried it again later...

Posted by: ogmb at Oct 18, 2008 3:12:25 PM

You include a placebo as a control for the treatment. When testing placebo, you need to include a control such as non-treatment and perhaps some meditation or something like that.

Posted by: Andrew at Oct 18, 2008 3:26:20 PM

Turing trade looks like a scam to me. Nowhere do I see any identification of who is behind it. I suspect that anyone who enters their credit card information or whatever to make trades there is asking for trouble.

Posted by: Stephen at Oct 18, 2008 3:27:17 PM

I guess there are exceptions to the diminishing returns to tapping. At 46 I'm still as tap-happy as I was 30 years ago. Speed's still there and, most enjoyably, a well- developed rhythmic use of all 8 fingers (I leave the pinkies out), while my feet serve as bass drums.

Also, within the past year, and with some diligent practice, I've been able to fiddle and clog together. For a total waste of time, see

This http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIEM9BrS-SU

and this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45uGGYaOph4

Posted by: Dave Prychitko at Oct 18, 2008 3:36:31 PM

turingtrade only asks for a username and password

Posted by: rluser at Oct 18, 2008 3:39:19 PM

I do not know this to be true, but it appears to be a project of a student, or alumnus of the duke computer science department. A phone number and possible home address are available if one knows where to look.

Posted by: rluser at Oct 18, 2008 3:45:19 PM

Click on "What is Turing trade?"

Posted by: Tyler Cowen at Oct 18, 2008 4:43:24 PM

A Turing machine is a simple computer which can be proved to be equivalent to any computer. This is unrelated to the Turing test, which is the attempt to distinguish between man and computer via text conversation. Thus item #4 should read "betting on the Turing test."

Posted by: Mark Roh at Oct 18, 2008 4:56:56 PM

Too bad it's not a site for betting on whether Turing machines will halt.

Posted by: Peter de Blanc at Oct 18, 2008 7:40:51 PM

A Turing machine is a model of computation at least as powerful as any other known model (in terms of computability). It is unrelated to the Turing test, which is what this site is based on, apart from their being both named after Alan Turing.

Posted by: Andy at Oct 19, 2008 12:01:49 AM

Thank you Mark, Peter and Andy, I came here to say exactly the same thing. I was wondering how the heck one would bet on Turing machines.

Posted by: Bill Mill at Oct 19, 2008 10:05:39 AM

Damn, and here I was hoping that prediction markets had been shown to solve the halting problem.

"Turing tests" not "Turing machines".

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