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Mr. Velde, in a Chicago Fed Letter issued in February, has come up with a solution that would abolish the penny, solve the excess costs of making nickels, help the poor, keep the Lincoln buffs happy and save hundreds of millions of dollars for taxpayers.
As Mr. Velde explained in an interview, “We face a very medieval problem so I took inspiration from the medieval practice of rebasing.”
He would rebase the penny by having the government declare it to be worth 5 cents.
We would then stop coining nickels at a loss. Here is more, from Austan Goolsbee. I am reminded of Neil Wallace's work from the 1980s on the indeterminacy of equilibrium exchange rates in the absence of legal restrictions. If we take away government acceptance at par for taxes and the like, is there not an equilibrium where each penny is worth a million dollars? More ambitiously, if the U.S. government declared that each $20 bill is now worth $100, or each $100 worth $500, would the real exchange rate adjust immediately?
Posted by Tyler Cowen on February 1, 2007 at 07:52 AM in Economics | Permalink
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Posted by: snoopy at Feb 1, 2007 8:21:29 AM
What about the Jefferson buffs? What about US?
Posted by: Amber at Feb 1, 2007 8:25:06 AM
How many pennies are out there? and how would a five-fold increase in their value affect the inflation rate?
Posted by: Joe Levy at Feb 1, 2007 8:55:15 AM
The monetary theory stuff, much of it by Wallace, that came out between 1975 and 1985 was so cool. It demolished (in me) so many preconceptions about what money is and isn't. It's nice to hear someone hark back to it.
Posted by: David Tufte at Feb 1, 2007 9:50:41 AM
I'm with snoopy and Joe Levy here. Couldn't this result in a.) a spike in the rate of inflation, and b.) people stockpiling pennies (perhaps some already are), waiting for their value to increase fivefold? Wouldn't we be better off to just start printing a five-cent coin that is as cheap to make as a penny (and probably looks similar to one), but is not the same?
Amber, the Jefferson buffs of the world still have the $2 bill to cling to... Oh, wait. You don't. Maybe the first ever (that I know of) coin with two heads is in order?
Posted by: d.cous. at Feb 1, 2007 12:37:49 PM
It sounds like he is suggesting that we do what Italy used to do with the Lira (or Zimbabwe or any other country of your chosing with hyperinflation): replace all the "old dollars" with a "new dollar." For every five old dollars you get back 1 shiny new dollar.
Posted by: Daniel at Feb 1, 2007 12:42:48 PM
I'm sure the Fed would be quite alert to just how much inflation this would incur, and would simply counterbalance that by selling Treasuries.
Thus the net effect on inflation would be zero, +/- measurement error on the Fed's part.
Posted by: happyjuggler0 at Feb 1, 2007 12:44:21 PM
After reading the article I see that all he is suggesting is to do away with the nickle. Wouldn't it be easier to just do away with the penny?
Posted by: Daniel at Feb 1, 2007 12:49:36 PM
After reading the article I see that all he is suggesting is to do away with the nickel. Wouldn't it be easier to just do away with the penny?
Daniel:
The nickel also costs more than its face value to mint, about seven cents. The penny costs a little more than 1 cent to mint. By making the penny the new nickel, he's solving both problems at once.
Posted by: John Thacker at Feb 1, 2007 1:37:03 PM
Many vending machines [and toll collection tools, etc] don't take pennies but do take nickels, and they would need a new coin separation engine, not just new programming.
-dk
Posted by: Dick King at Feb 1, 2007 2:39:10 PM
David Tufte is right: that stuff was cool. Unfortunately, most (or all ) lessons from the work of Neil Wallace, Tom Sargent, John Kareken and some of their students have been ignored in the analysis of monetary and exchange rate issues. Just one or two days ago Tyler ignored them when posting about a paper on equilibrium REAL exchange rates and attempted to draw conclusions about nominal exchange rates. At the practical level, the problem posed by the proposal to users of vending and other machines can be solved by circulating both the nickel and the penny although not more nickels should be issued (this may imply that a nickel's price will be higher than five cents). To those worry about the impact on inflation, although I don't know the amounts, the total value of pennys in circulation is too small for a 500% increase to pose a problem, and the hoarding of nickels most likely will compensate the inflationary effect of such an increase.
Posted by: Edgardo at Feb 1, 2007 3:09:03 PM
In the long run don't you think the cost of changing our entire currency for a penny worth only one cent and a nickel worth a mere five cents is really worth it? And yes this would increase inflation because the baseline behind inflation is simply supply but also demand. If people were to start holding on to pennies now that are worth only one cent so they could gain four more in the end that will increase not only supply and demand. So, I think this is a ludacris idea. That's almost like saying to get America out of debt lets just have the government print more money and all our problems would be solved. I'm not buying it.
Posted by: Lauren Ross at Feb 1, 2007 10:46:28 PM
I am reminded of a children's story by Isaac Baashevis Singer about the fabulous village of Chelm. As I remember it, Chelm fell desperately short of sour cream one Hanukah season, disappointing latke eaters throughout the community. So a law was adopted to rename water "sour cream" and sour cream "water." (Chelm was not just known for good government. In Chelm a village elder slapped by the tail of a carp imposes capital punishment on the fish--death by drowning.)
Posted by: Dan Akst at Feb 1, 2007 11:32:11 PM
Why not allow the US Mint to buy used coins in good condition for more than face value but less than manufacturing cost? If it costs 7 cents to make a nickel, and a person can get 5.5 cents worth of copper by melting the nickel down, let the Mint buy nickels in bulk for 6 cents each. The Mint could fill some of the demand for nickels by paying people 1 cent each to clean out their ashtrays instead of losing 2 cents making each one from scratch.
Posted by: Don Marti at Feb 2, 2007 12:14:22 AM
Many vending machines [and toll collection tools, etc] don't take pennies but do take nickels, and they would need a new coin separation engine, not just new programming.
-dk
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