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Self-Experimentation

John D. Freyer decided to sell everything he owns -- yes everything -- on ebay.  Stage two is to visit those objects in people's homes around the country and record their tales.  Stage three is to publish this book

When Oh When will people appreciate how deep Seth Roberts's self-experimentation concept runs?  Descartes started with the idea that we know only ourselves, Seth realizes that the self is often the last thing we know and discovering the self is the highest stage of science not to mention performance art.  The innovation of hermeneutics (as found say, in Paul Riceour) was to set the self apart from the social world and trace the implications of a dualistic and indeed interpretative social science.  Seth reestablishes methodological monism by turning the world-self distinction on its head, relocating the self in the world of science.  Add to that mix a working knowledge of experimental psychology, insights from neurodiversity (the meticulous recording of self, the focus on detail, plus the deeply autistic speak of the self in the third person as an external object to be observed; are they so wrong?), and sugared water, for a potent mix.

Virtually all of you -- that's right you -- underinvest in self-experimentation at the relevant margin.  Status quo bias is one reason, plus we fear negative feedback about who we are and what we are doing.  Who wants to learn that his or her **x life (family blog!) could have been 63 percent better for the last fourteen years?   

Scientists should spend at least one-third of their time with self-experimentation.  Robin Hanson lectures us on bias, favoring one's self excessively, failing to agree with smarter or better informed others, and intellectual hubris.  We need to correct for these flaws, just as we might wipe the dirt off the lens of our microscope.  Good luck.

A'la Heisenberg, measuring the self does not differ in degree from constructing the self.  Seth thus solves the age-old problem of avoiding the collapse of German Idealism into German Romanticism and then into complete subjectivity.  The construction of the self is brought squarely into the realm of science; this integrates the two sides of early Wittgenstein, namely the affinity for the mystical and the analytics which gave birth to logical positivism. 

Did I mention politics?  Wilhelm von Humboldt, a descendent of the Romantics and forerunner of Mill, portrayed self-experimentation as the essential outcome of freedom and the ultimate justification for a free society.  Plato saw the same in Book Eight of The Republic, where it is argued that the life of a philosopher (i.e., critical self-examination) can flourish only under democracy.  Dan Klein's paper is called "Go Ahead and Let Him Try."

Of course it was Goethe who understood most of this, and even put it into verse, but that is another post altogether.  Nor are Jung and Nietzsche irrelevant.  Seth Roberts is my new ersatz Continental philosopher.

Here is my previous post on Seth, you can use Google for Alex's posts too.  Here is Seth's blog.

Addendum: Seth responds

Posted by Tyler Cowen on February 18, 2007 at 06:27 AM in Philosophy | Permalink

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Scientists should spend 1/3 of their time on self-experimentation? Puhleeze. I became a scientist so I could get beyond the world of the flesh. Maybe we could harness the rest of the world to do this in their spare time, but hey, then we'd probably get Kevin Trudeau and 5 billion of my grandma, thinking bee's wax will cure their arthritis.

I discount self-experimentation to the degree that I believe we are mostly built the same, and so can afford to have someone else impartial be aggregating data on our lives. If tabloids, magazines, and Newsweek didn't try so hard to swamp these sorts of studies, I'm sure we'd all have a bit more wisdom to live on by now.

Posted by: Chi at Feb 18, 2007 10:17:58 AM

Another book that focuses monism that I've been reading lately is The Self-Aware Universe by Amit Goswami. He refers to it as monistic idealism, but it sounds like it covers a lot of the same topics.

Posted by: mith at Feb 18, 2007 11:11:36 AM

Only really shallow people know themselves.

Posted by: The Nice at Feb 18, 2007 11:14:22 AM

I can't say if you've got Riceour right or not but you've made a hash of Descartes in your brief statement there. Maybe less time on self exploration and another reading of the _Meditations_ would have helped!

Posted by: Matt at Feb 18, 2007 11:14:26 AM

Well if your goal is true knowledge or some such maybe you are right. However if your goal is happiness of a feeling of fulfillment it seems exactly the arguments you marshaled for why people don't like to do it show that it may make them less happy.

Don't get me wrong I would really love it if people did more self-experimentation, particularly in terms of their political views. It would make our society a much more enlightened reasonable place. However, the effect of one individual voter is small and the loss of certainty that strong unanalyzed political views provide is quite upsetting for many.

Posted by: logicnazi at Feb 18, 2007 12:33:16 PM

Actually, Plato was a hardcore totalitarian communist who said the ideal government was to give totalitarian powers to the philosophers (the "benevolent dictator"), who would keep order and make sure everyone else was doing what they were told to do in order to advance the greater good of society (what the "greater good" actually was to be determiend exclusively by the philosphers). He was in no way an advocate for freedom.

Posted by: Wesley at Feb 18, 2007 12:48:38 PM

A'la Heisenberg, measuring the self does not differ in degree from constructing the self. Seth thus solves the age-old problem of avoiding the collapse of German Idealism into German Romanticism and then into complete subjectivity.

Can you elaborate on this? Complete subjectivity derives from epistemological solipsism, which remains unimpeached.

Posted by: Gyan at Feb 18, 2007 4:56:17 PM

"Who wants to learn that his or her **x life (family blog!) could have been 63 percent better for the last fourteen years?"

Are you implying that I could have paid 63% less in taxes over the last 14 years?

Posted by: Brandon Berg at Feb 18, 2007 6:52:17 PM

Tyler, I sympathize with your frustration of the current reign of Descartes' and Kant's duality.

Many of the great 20th and 19th century philsophers have attempted to dismantle it.

I had a professor who told me that, despite the efforts of recent philophers, duality still stands because our actions are guided by a dual conception of reality.

Posted by: Jeff Jones at Feb 19, 2007 1:33:20 AM

i'm a bit confused here.

Didn't Descartes separate out our conscience/spirit from the material substance of the body.

so Descartes didn't really contend that one knows the material workings of the self, just the spiritual conscience.

On the other hand, Spinoza contended that our minds are THE idea of the body (material substances and all).

so descartes, unlike spinoza, is open to self experimentation (well...not really self experimentation though, but experimentation of the physical world...the self is technically only our consciousness/spirit).

on the other hand, spinoza has a much more shallow conception of self.

Posted by: Roberto at Feb 19, 2007 1:46:27 AM

as I typed my last post, I began to understand where Tyler is coming from.

you probably prefer Spinoza's shallow monism over Descartes' dualism.

Descartes' dualism leads to abstract constraints imposed on the mind.

these artificial constraints impose impediments to self-discovery.

Posted by: roberto at Feb 19, 2007 1:57:18 AM

Are you serious, Tyler? That posts reads like a parody from a Bellow novel.
Smart but frustratingly obscure.

Posted by: Laszlo at Feb 19, 2007 3:44:56 AM

I'd really like to think there's something here, like a hundred dollar bill on the floor, but I don't see it.

Posted by: Jeff Brown at Feb 19, 2007 11:45:19 AM

Tyler, you really should stop picking on Seth. He's harmless.

Posted by: PatrickH at Feb 19, 2007 5:35:42 PM

On the Descartes-ian and post-Descartesian thing: Stephen Toulmin rocks.

On "the self": Vedanta rocks.

Posted by: Michael Blowhard at Feb 19, 2007 8:43:09 PM

Tyler, just because most folks under-utilize the possibilities of self-experimentation, doesn't justify holding up Seth Roberts' work as a positive example. Clearly, economists--bless their hearts--are lapsing when it comes to any background in research methodology. Seth's work is plagued with methodological problems that leave it utterly without redemption, not just failing to produce generalizable findings (a tough stretch for any self-experimentation), but failed to the point that it's not even credible evidence for his own case of one.

Walk over to any research social science or life science department near you. GMU has a slew of them, many of them right by you on the Arlington campus. Show them Seth's research design, and watch their eyes roll for very good reason. I'm sorry, but it's just terrible, and the stuff that would lead any grad student in the social sciences to fail their research methods sequence.

Please don't hold up craptastic pseudo-scientific junk as something to emulate. There are plenty of ways to do homebrew research without being fatally sloppy about it. This just isn't one of those models or success stories.

Posted by: Frank at Feb 21, 2007 2:14:04 AM

I think all this academic jive is blinding you to the hundred dollar bills strewn about on the floor of Seth's work. I have repeatedly found that applying the scientific method to my personal behavioral patterns leads to growth and change. For example, spending less than 30 minutes per day blogging could possibly improve my s.. life by 63%.

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