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I expect Tyler Cowen to jump in here and point out that this applies to food, too: you should try something new frequently, rather than sticking to old favourites.

Here is the modeler, a few remarks:

1. If you are in a good restaurant, try something that doesn't sound appealing.  If it seems bad to most customers, it is on the menu for some other good reason, such as how it tastes.

2. The best argument against trying new things is wanting to keep the pleasures of anticipation.

3. Beware those who try many new things, it is often their sneaky form of conservatism.  In many fields of interest, trying new things is the only sustainable routine.

4. The person who tries new things only "every now and then" is often, in real terms, the greater innovator.  Such occasional quests for novelties have greater potential to be true earthquakes.

5. People have only so much toleration for novelty in them; no one embraces novelty consistently and in all fields of life.  Spend your tolerance for novelty wisely.

6. To prevent "trying new things" from becoming stale in its own terms, I have two tips.  First, spend time with children,.  Second, try "not trying anything new for a while," that is if you can.

7. Many people try new things for pre-emptive reasons; "I'd better try it before it tries me."

Posted by Tyler Cowen on January 15, 2007 at 04:47 PM in Education | Permalink

Comments

How do you keep track of all your schemes for living? Does all the scheming ever detract from the experience?

Posted by: slim at Jan 15, 2007 5:24:12 PM

He tried so many new things that he learned
that he should not try too many new things,
but he just can't help himself, :-).

Posted by: Barkley Rosser at Jan 15, 2007 6:11:32 PM

If you are in a good restaurant, try something that doesn't sound appealing.

This is even more true in Chinese restaurants that cater to an Asian clientele. My rule has always been "if you don't know what it is, order it and find out." Some of the most vile-sounding things have turned out to be absolutely delicious. Then again, some of them have turned out to be as vile as they sounded. But it's always educational. I call it "Menu Roulette".

Posted by: Tony at Jan 15, 2007 7:30:16 PM

If you are in a good restaurant, try something that doesn't sound appealing. If it seems bad to most customers, it is on the menu for some other good reason, such as how it tastes.

That's one possible reason. There are others.

"The chef was experimenting."

"We have to have a (vegetarian, inexpensive, low-carb, low-fat, whatever) dish and so we concocted this."

"We had some leftover xyz from the weekend, and it's about to go bad."

"The supplier delivered the wrong stuff."

etc.

Posted by: bernard Yomtov at Jan 15, 2007 7:58:23 PM

I've lately noticed that a number of men that I admire most tend to eat more for fuel than for pleasure. That is how I am, so of course I interpret that to be a positive, but I haven't really connected that to anything else yet.

Posted by: Ray G at Jan 15, 2007 9:26:46 PM

Bernard-

That's why he specified "in a good restaurant." Having said that, New York is one of the few cities in the US where the good restaurants are blessedly free of the expectation they will cater to vegetarian diners, so that part may apply elsewhere.

Tony-

Actually, in my experience authentic Chinese restaurants are one of the riskier places to try this strategy. First, it does not fit the premise of Tyler's point--the "weird" dishes on the menu are there because the knowledgeable clientele expect them, and their inclusion signals that this restaurant serves authentic food, not because the chef thinks they are particularly strong. Second, there is a sort of jellyfish/shark fin axis in Chinese cuisine the appreciation of which hinges on subtle differences in texture, which is often considered to be beyond the ken of untutored Western tastes, and in my experience correctly so. Of course I hold out hope, as I do with all foods I do not enjoy, that the problem is that I've only had inferior renditions.

Of course the best dishes at a good Chinese restaurant are almost certainly not the familiar ones from crappy takeout joints. In my experience you're best off ordering from the staple dishes of whatever regional cuisine the restaurant specializes in. (If the restaurant does not specialize in a particular region you're probably best off leaving.)

Posted by: Dave H at Jan 15, 2007 9:59:30 PM

i find i tend to do something beyond the point at which the action yields any pleasure. the thing i once enjoyed doing now causes me a bit of discomfort, out of boredom perhaps, but not as much discomfort as the process of seaking out something new to do would.

but at some point the cost of continuing doing the same thing seems to exceed the cost of seaking out something new to do. and then i tend to change my approach.

i probably have what (if i understand right) is a somewhat high discount rate, so i might not plan ahead for these phases of boredom, and only act when they are upon me, or imminent.

Posted by: Mike Kenny at Jan 15, 2007 10:06:38 PM

That's why he specified "in a good restaurant."

Even Homer nods.

Posted by: Bernard Yomtov at Jan 15, 2007 10:39:17 PM

I liked #4. This is the converse of the person who likes novelty for novelty's sake. That is, by definition, fickle.

In a favorite restaurant, I'll usually stick to my tried and true plates as I want to leave satisfied; if I were in the mood to experiment, I'd go some place else.

Travelling overseas, particularly the poorer countries, I enjoyed trying the new dishes without barely a question. (Sight and smell playing major roles of course - if it smells like garbage or looks like uncooked intestines, well. . . )

Posted by: Ray G at Jan 15, 2007 10:51:08 PM

Daniel Gilbert's book Stumbling on Happiness addresses the quest for variety in chapter 7 with a food example. He asks you to imagine that you are invited by the maître d' of a fine restaurant to enjoy a free meal once a month for a year, with the stipulation that you choose the menu for the coming year now. You have a favorite dish there, but there are several other dishes you would fancy. You wouldn't mind eating your favorite dish twelve times, but that would be too gauche, so you sprinkle in some of the less favored dishes among your choices.


He goes on to argue that you would be making a mistake to do so. When we make such decisions, we tend to imagine the choices splayed out before us, like we were about to eat twelve meals in a row. But choices over time are qualitatively different than choices made once. There are two ways to address the declining marginal utility of repeated experiences: variety, and time; if you have time, you don't need variety, and in fact you will be happier if you always order your favorite meal at a restaurant (given sufficient time between visits).


This presumes that you are familiar with the food and have clear preferences, of course.

Posted by: JC at Jan 16, 2007 1:32:14 AM

True novelty (i.e. novelty which contributes to value)
is rare in established areas of commerce; in areas of long
competition, most easily discovered innovations have already been found.
But, claims of novelty are very common in well-established fields.

If most assertions of novelty are therefore false, then the assertion of
novelty in ordinary cirucmstances is a sign of misdirection.

There is a stong incentive to misdirect with claims of false novelty
for things that could not recommend themselves according to
well-established norms.

For well-established fields, in sum, claims of novelty are likely to
be efforts to cause a misjudgment of true value.

Posted by: Pensans at Jan 16, 2007 3:27:10 AM

If you are in a good restaurant, try something that doesn't sound appealing. If it seems bad to most customers, it is on the menu for some other good reason, such as how it tastes.

I think Bernard is fairly spot on, especially with the "chef experimentation."

That's why he specified "in a good restaurant."

Even "good restaurants" often toss together specials with leftovers from the weekend. If you want old fish, order the special on Monday.

Posted by: dsk at Jan 16, 2007 10:01:27 AM

Does your advice apply to personal relationships as well (and, if so, how do you implement it within a monogamous marriage)? I have in mind here the JPE article of nearly 30 years ago that illustrated a positive income elasticity of demand for variety in sexual partners.

Posted by: EclectEcon at Jan 16, 2007 10:44:51 AM

Pensans,

You clearly have not been eating at some of the
funkier restaurants that Tyler has in his ethnic
dining guide.

Posted by: Barkley Rosser at Jan 16, 2007 1:32:47 PM

Unfortunately, with my eclectic palate, the only thing on the menu that doesn't sound appealing is that boring slab of beef they call "steak", so this technique is of limited value to me.

Posted by: triticale at Jan 16, 2007 7:11:44 PM

3. Beware those who try many new things, it is often their sneaky form of conservatism. In many fields of interest, trying new things is the only sustainable routine.

Does anyone else not understand this? Is there an inherent conflict between conservatism and sustainability I'm not aware of?

Posted by: Tracy W at Jan 16, 2007 11:13:45 PM

3. Beware those who try many new things, it is often their sneaky form of conservatism. In many fields of interest, trying new things is the only sustainable routine.

Does anyone else not understand this? Is there an inherent conflict between conservatism and sustainability I'm not aware of?

Posted by: Tracy W at Jan 16, 2007 11:25:16 PM

I always enjoy new things :-)

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