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Joe Stiglitz watch
Let me start with the concessions. Joe Stiglitz is one of the most brilliant economic theorists of the last thirty years. The current Bolivian distribution of wealth is drastically unfair and is a legacy of prior and indeed ongoing theft and oppression. Large enough resource confiscations, as occurred when the Saudis nationalized Western oil interests, can make a people better off.
Now let's move to the train wreck, quoted from The New York Times Book Review, written by Alma Guillermoprieto:
Stiglitz and his wife first visited Bolivia four years ago, and returned in May. "Morales's election was such a big thing," he said in a recent phone conversation, "that we decided to make the effort to go down there and take a look." He spent one day of the visit listening to Powerpoint presentations by members of Morales's economic team, most of whom are academics who at some point have studied abroad. He found his interlocutors thoughtful and impressive, he said.
In May, Evo Morales decreed the nationalization of the energy industry...In July, Stiglitz, who has written about energy resources and how they are used, did not seem to find the policy startling or irrational, even though it has enraged the representatives of the companies that have invested in Bolivia's tempting deposits of natural gas.
It should be noted that the Bolivians were receiving only 18 percent royalties on these resources, and that figure was calculated on a base lower than market prices might imply, given that the country is landlocked and does not receive market prices for its gas. So yes it is unfair.
But under the new regime, the gas yields only $820 milliion in revenue a year. That is over $100 a person a year. Lots of money for a poor Bolivian, but hardly enough to retire on or hardly enough to then stagnate. And Bolivia wrecks its credibility with foreign investors. And a renegotiation of the deal with the private companies would have been possible. And most state energy companies are very badly run. And energy and indeed natural gas shortages are already popping up in Bolivia. And many people in the wealthier, eastern part of the country (e.g., Santa Cruz) opposed nationalization; they are keen to do business with Brazil. And few poor countries -- dare I say any? -- have done well going down the route of economic populism. And if we are going to be populist, is anyone -- read: Stiglitz -- calling for that money to go directly to Bolivia's citizens? That includes the indigenous ones who live on the barren altiplano and even now don't control the government and probably never will. Yup, those people. (I might add that I have such a hat, which I cherish, although Natasha asks I do not wear it in the United States.)
Addendum: Here is Brad DeLong on Paul Krugman's economic populism: "...when I read Paul's call for "smart, bold populism," I am reminded of earlier calls a couple of decades ago by Milton Friedman, Marty Feldstein, and their ilk for smart, bold conservatism or smart, bold libertarianism. But they did not get what they ordered: on the economic policy front the policies of Reagan and of Bush II have been a horrible botch. What populist policies that we can think of would be smart? And how can we make our high politicians allergic to populist policies that are stupid?"
Posted by Tyler Cowen on September 2, 2006 at 06:01 AM in Economics | Permalink
Comments
I don't think you linked to the actual NY Times Book Review article, available here:
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/19210
Posted by: Michael Stack at Sep 2, 2006 10:07:53 AM
Stiglitz has undergone a pretty rapid devolution. In the past few years, his insight/platitude ratio has gone quite low.
Posted by: Keith at Sep 2, 2006 10:15:59 AM
And Bolivia wrecks its credibility with foreign investors.
Is that like, "No one will hire Terrell Owens, given history"?
Posted by: SomeCallMeTim at Sep 2, 2006 10:16:38 AM
"theft ..... resource confiscations": would you care to amplify this nice distinction?
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Posted by: Eregson at Sep 2, 2006 11:54:27 AM
Yeah, the thing about the Bolivian nationalization is that it seems to have been conducted in a hamhanded maner designed to maximize publicity without any thought to actually generating revenues. As I recall they already had to back down (supposedly temporarily) because the Bolivian government couldn't put enough skilled people in place to run the industry. It would have made a lot more sense to do some backroom renegotiation with full nationalization as a threat, but Morales is either stupid or else just cares more about his image than his people.
Posted by: bbartlog at Sep 2, 2006 12:00:22 PM
Some time ago I read an article in which Stiglitz defended bolivian nationalization policy. His argument was that expropriation and nationalization were two different things - there were no compensations to the original owner in the first case, while in the latter case there were compensations...
Since I actually live in Brazil, I was left wondering: how come no brazilians have heard that there were compensations for the Petrobras natural gas plant that was "nationalized" by Morales? Brazilian president Lula passively remarked that "bolivians are a poor people" and nothing else happened.
Since Petrobras is a government owned enterprise, it looks like brazilian citizens will be paying for Morale's "nationalization" policy.
Posted by: avillez80 at Sep 2, 2006 12:19:48 PM
Stiglitz also recently wrote a piece for project Syndicate praising Morales' nationalization moves in the energy sector. The money jaw-drop quote:
"For now, the world should celebrate the fact that Bolivia has a democratically elected leader attempting to represent the interests of the poor people of his country. It is a historic moment."
http://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/stiglitz71
He was also recently interviewed in the Telegraph, where he talks about everything from joining a Hillary White House to the ills of global trade:
"Fewer than 25,000 American farmers could jeopardise the whole global trading system... When you think about it, you realise something's wrong in the global democracy… Economic globalisation has outpaced the political institutions and our mindsets."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/core/Content/displayPrintable.jhtml?xml=/money/2006/08/28/ccprof28.xml&site=1&page=0
Posted by: Pienso... Luego Existo at Sep 2, 2006 1:16:40 PM
As for "smart" populist policies, land reform, when done right, can be a very good thing. It has to be accompanied with a focus on strong property rights. It also has been done right in a few cases - Taiwan and S. Korea are examples. One huge problem in Latin American countries is that a few super-rich families own most of the land and end up owning most big business, so capitalism can't work properly.
As for oil/gas, I'd probably change from a "rent" model to a "tax" model: if you're a foreign oil company, you can own the fields, but you pay X% of the market price on the thing you dig out of the ground. This may make it tricky as government revenue would then be directly exposed to price risk, but the good thing is that the governments would want well-run oil companies to be running things so they could maximize their tax take.
Posted by: Foobarista at Sep 2, 2006 1:37:44 PM
As I wrote in my July column in Prospect,
http://www.philippelegrain.com/legrain/2006/06/inefficient_mar.html
Stiglitz's embrace of Latin America's new populists is yet another example of how he himself has become a populist, trading on his intellectual credentials to pander to the anti-globalisation left. The man is a disgrace.
Posted by: Philippe Legrain at Sep 2, 2006 1:55:29 PM
"Stiglitz has undergone a pretty rapid devolution. In the past few years, his insight/platitude ratio has gone quite low."
You could replace Stiglitz with Krugman and this would still be 100% truth.
Of course, even in the Clinton years, Stiglitz was the lone "solid left" voice in the Rubin/Sperling crowd. Still what's happened to many of the bright center-left economists in the last few years is heartbreaking. It is heartening to see Prof. DeLong, even after his embarassing hagiographic paper on J.K. Galbraith, still maintain some skeptical distance from his rock god Krugman.
Stiglitz has cashed in on his intellectual credibility to defend common latin American populist thugs. 70 years earlier, and he'd be part of the official propaganda arm of the Kremlin, as for Krugman, he's devolved into a third rate Huey Long.
Posted by: DRR at Sep 2, 2006 2:21:09 PM
The essential problem here is not Stiglitz's sins, real and imagined, but the brute fact that the legacy of the Conquistadors still distorts economic and political life in Latin America 500 years later. It's time for smart economists to help contribute to smart populism by assisting in plans for making Latin American life less inegalitarian _and_ less inefficient.
Posted by: Steve Sailers at Sep 2, 2006 7:13:59 PM
Without wanting to sound like a kneejerking, uneducated hack, Steve Sailers, I take that whole view of colonalism-as-unforgivebale-excuse-for-all-wrongs to be a little too convenient, particularly in the case of Latin America. Yes, it's true that there are legacies of corruption and familial control that come from those periods, but the blame for economic problems can not be blamed entirely on the foreign oppressors, nor even that strongly. It just seems to me that the problems arise from a much more complex set of causes, many of which have nothing to do with the colonial powers, and also that many of the positive aspects of the same countries would only exist with the influence of the colonial powers. But then we get into what-ifs, which are always dangerous.
Posted by: Neal at Sep 3, 2006 2:44:53 PM
Neal,
The colonial legacy means that most of Latin America has a much more
unequal distribution of both wealth (especially in land) and income than
pretty much the rest of the world. That sours the politics mightily,
especially when those inequalities are tied to ethnic racial differences
as in Bolivia.
I do think that a lot of the comments here on Stiglitz have been
gratuitously nasty without much content. Regarding this matter of
gas naturalization, Tyler may be right that it has been done badly
in Bolivia for political reasons and that perhaps Morales and the
country would have been better off just renegotiating the contracts.
However, the hard fact is that most major oil and gas exporters have
largely nationalized industries, including Saudi Arabia and Iran under
the Shah. The first to go was Mexico in 1938 with its PEMEX, which is
reportedly inefficient and corrupt. Some others are also, some are
not. The latest privatization in that area was in Russia, which
apparently increased corruption, a warning about Tyler's bleatings
against Stiglitz for not solving or dealing with corruption as an
issue. That one is not so easily resolved.
Posted by: Barkley Rosser at Sep 3, 2006 5:28:52 PM
[And Bolivia wrecks its credibility with foreign investors.]
gonna eat me a bowl of "credibility" for lunch today, perhaps following it up with a "participation in the global capital markets" sandwich.
Posted by: dsquared at Sep 4, 2006 4:19:25 AM
I saw Stiglitz on Charlie Rose a few years ago with one of the anti-globalization activists. After he gave one of his riffs about how the World Bank could do a better job of fostering growth, the telegenic young activist started opining about how the problem was economic growth itself! She said the World Bank should stop worrying about poor people's per capita income.
Instead of administering the polemical tell-off she so richly deserved, Stiglitz started pandering to her and trying to paper over their fundamental disagreement. It was disgusting. Obviously the man is brilliant, and I enjoyed his teaching many years ago, but it is hard not to conclude that he lacks intellectual character. His critiques of neoclassical theory have gone from pragmatic policy guides to self-indulgent apologetics for manifestly bad people and ideas.
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